Ellen G. White Estate

Manuscript Releases Volume Five [Nos. 260-346] (1990), page 97, paragraph 3

Chapter Title: MR No. 281 - Three Early Letters

While in Exeter, Maine, in meeting with Israel Dammon, James, and many others, many of them did not believe in a shut door. I suffered much at the commencement of the meeting. Unbelief seemed to be on every hand. There was one sister there that was called very spiritual. She had traveled and been a powerful preacher the most of the time for twenty years. She had been truly a mother in Israel. But a division had risen in the band on the shut door. She had great sympathy, and could not believe the door was shut. (I had known nothing of their differences.) Sister Durben got up to talk. I felt very, very sad. At length my soul seemed to be in an agony, and while she was talking I fell from my chair to the floor. It was then I had a view of Jesus rising from His mediatorial throne and going to the Holiest as Bridegroom to receive His kingdom. They were all deeply interested in the


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view. They all said it was entirely new to them. The Lord worked in mighty power setting the truth home to their hearts. Sister Durben knew what the power of the Lord was, for she had felt it many times; and a short time after I fell she was struck down, and fell to the floor, crying to God to have mercy on her. When I came out of vision, my ears were saluted with Sister Durben's singing and shouting with a loud voice. Most of them received the vision, and were settled upon the shut door. Previous to this I had no light on the coming of the Bridegroom, but had expected Him to [come to] this earth to deliver His people on the tenth day of the seventh month. I did not hear a lecture or a word in any way relating to the Bridegroom's going to the Holiest.


Tradução ao pé da letra: (se alguém tiver alguma tradução feita pela administração, por favor mande)

Quando estava em Exeter, Maine, numa reunião com Israel Dammon, James e muitos outros não acreditavam na porta fechada. Eu sofri muito no começo da reunião. Incrédulos pareceram em cada mão. Havia uma irmã lá que era tida como muito espiritual. Ela viajava e tinha sido uma poderosa pregadora durante 20 anos. Ela tem sido verdadeiramente uma mãe em Israel. Mas na questão da "porta fechada" a discordia cresceu no grupo. Ela tinha grande simpatia, mas não poderia crer na porta fechada. Eu não sabia nada dessas diferenças.
A irmã Durben se levantou e começou a falar. Eu me sentí muito, muito desgostosa. Com o tempo a minha alma parecia estar em agonia. Enquanto ela falava eu caí da cadeira para o chão. Foi quando eu tive uma visão de Jesus se levantando do seu trono mediador e indo para o compartimento santíssimo como o Esposo para receber o seu reino. Todos estavam muito interessados na visão. Todos disseram que era inteiramente nova para eles.
A irmã Durben conhecia o poder do Senhor que ela tinha caido em visão muitas vezes. Logo depois que eu caí, ela caiu como um raio no chão, clamando a Deus por misericórdia.
Quando eu voltei da visão, meus ouvidos foram agraciados com a irmã Durben cantando em alta voz. A maioria deles recebeu a visão concordando de uma vez com a porta fechada.
Antes disso eu não tive nenhuma luz sobre a vinda do Esposo, mas esperei Ele vir a essa Terra e entregar o seu povo no dia dez, do mês sétimo. Eu não ouví a leitura ou palavra de nenhuma forma relacionada com o Esposo indo para o santíssimo.



Nota: (é muito difícil traduzir porque ela escreve de uma forma muito truncada)
A visão da porta fechada se relacionava ao movimento de Guilherme Miller, e que em 1844 a porta da graça fechou.

O que Ellen White descreve na carta ao Comandante Bates, é o descrédito da sua visão, quando houve uma segunda visão confirmando a primeira, e desta vez uma visão coletiva que convenceu definitivamente a todos os presentes, que não criam nela. Nessa carta, Ellen White está confirmando a data da volta de Cristo, pregada por Guilherme Miller.

O grupo se manteve fiel como discípulos de Guilherme Miller por mais de 20 anos. (muito depois da organização da Igreja Adventista)
A doutrina do Santuário e Juizo Investigativo, e a porta fechada, foi um esforço para justificar a data de 1844 como alguma coisa muito solene tendo acontecido no céu, e equivocadamente interpretada por Guilherme Miller como sendo a volta de Jesus.



 

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Arthur  L. White (neto de Ellen White) faz uma longa dissertação para explicar a questão da Porta Fechada, para finalmente concluir que a expressão  "SHUT DOOR" mudou de significado !

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What was the meaning of the term "shut door" as used in November, 1844, in January, 1845, in 1846, in 1847, in 1848, then on through the years to 1851 and even subsequently? Did the term convey the same meaning at all times, and how was it understood by various individuals during this critical period?"

 
http://www.whiteestate.org/issues/shut-alw.html
 



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A comparação abaixo da visão de Ellen White e de William E. Foy  foi retirada do website http://www.ellenwhiteexposed.com/refute9a.htm e não foi conferida por nós.
 

Ellen G. White
Christian Experience and Views of Mrs. White (1851)
William E. Foy
The Christian Experience of William E. Foy (1845)
All the angels that are commissioned to visit the earth hold a golden card, which they present to the angels at the gates of the city as they pass in and out. (pp. 37, 39) I then beheld countless millions of shining ones coming with cards in their hands. These shining ones became our guides. The cards, they bore shone above the brightness of the sun; and they placed them in our hands but the name of them I could not read. (pp. 10, 11)
On either side of the chariot were wings, and beneath it wheels. And as the chariot rolled upwards, the wheels cried Holy, and the wings as they moved, cried Holy, and the retinue of Holy Angels around the cloud cried Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord God Almighty. (p. 35) There were countless millions of bright angels, whose wings were like pure gold, and they sang with loud voices, while their wings cried, holy. (p. 18)
And as the chariot rolled upward, the wheels cried, "Holy," and the wings, as they moved, cried, "Holy," and the retinue of holy angels around the cloud cried, "Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty!" Maranatha, p. 305 Behind the angel I beheld countless millions of bright chariots. Each chariot had four wings like flaming fire and an angel followed after the chariot, and the wings of the chariot, and the wings of the angel cried as one voice saying "holy." (p. 18)
On one side of the river was a trunk of a tree, and a trunk on the other side of the river, both of pure, transparent gold... Its branches bowed to the place where we stood, and the fruit was glorious; it looked like gold mixed with silver. (p. 17) I then beheld in the middle of this boundless place a tree, the body of which was like unto transparent glass, and the limbs were like transparent gold, extending all over this boundless place...the fruit appeared like clusters of grapes in pictures of pure gold. (pp. 14,15)
I asked Jesus to let me eat of the fruit. He said: "Not now. Those who eat of the fruit of this land go back to earth no more... (pp. 19, 20) With a lovely voice the guide spoke to me and said, "Those who eat of the fruit of this tree return to earth no more." (p. 15)
...in His right hand was a sharp sickle; in His left, a silver trumpet. (p. 16) Against His breast and across his left hand was as it were a trumpet of pure silver... (p. 18)
Here on the sea of glass the 144,000 stood in a perfect square. Some of them had very bright crowns, others not so bright. ... And they were all clothed with a glorious white mantle from their shoulders to their feet. (p. 11) I then saw in midst of the place an innumerable multitude, arrayed in white raiment, standing in a perfect square, having crowns of unfading glory upon their heads. (p. 19)
Jesus raised his mighty glorious arm, laid hold of the pearly gate and swung it back on its glittering hinges, and said to us, You have washed your robes in my blood, stood stiffly for my truth, enter in. We all marched in and felt we had a perfect right in the City.(p. 11) Before the gate stood a tall and mighty angel clothed in raiment pure and white; his eyes were like flaming fire, and his he wore a crown upon his head which lighted up this boundless plain. The angel raised his right hand, and laid hold upon the gate and opened it; and as it rolled upon its glittering hinges, he cried with a loud voice to the heavenly host, "Your all welcome!" Then the guardian angels in the midst of the saints struck a song of triumph, and the saints, both great and small sang with loud voices and passed within the gate... (p. 10)

(Documento Oficial do White Estate)
E. G. White-Letter 3, 1847

Manuscript Release #281—4

Below is EGW's handwritten three-page letter

 

Ellen White to Joseph Bates

Gorham, Maine, July 13, 1847

Dear Brother Bates:

As James is at work and sisters are from home thought I would employ myself in writing a line to you. My health is quite good for me. My faith is still strong that that very same Jesus that ascended up into heaven will so come in like manner as He went up, and that very, very soon. I have had many trials of late; discouragement at times has laid so fast hold upon me it seemed impossible to shake it off. But thank God, Satan has not got the victory over me yet, and by the grace of God he never shall. I know and feel my weakness, but I have laid hold upon the strong arm of Jehovah, and I can say today I know that my Redeemer liveth, and if He lives I shall live also. Oh how good it would be to meet with a few of like precious faith to exhort and comfort one another with words of holy cheer from the word of God. The sheep are now scattered, but thank God, they are about to be gathered to a good pasture.

Oh how sweet it will be to meet all the blood-washed throng in the city of our God. 'Tis then we'll sing the song of Moses and the Lamb as we march through the gates into the city, bearing the palms of victory and wearing the crowns of glory.

Brother Bates, you write in a letter to James something about the Bridegroom's coming, as stated in the first published visions. By the letter you would like to know whether I had light on the Bridegroom's coming before I saw it in vision. I can readily answer, No. The Lord showed me the travail of the Advent band and midnight cry in December, but He did not show me the Bridegroom's coming until February following. Perhaps you would like to have me give a statement in relation to both visions. At the time I had the vision of the midnight cry I had given it up in the past and thought it future, as also most of the band had. I know not what time J. Turner got out his paper. I knew he had one out and one was in the house, but I knew not what was in it, for I did not read a word in it. I had been, and still was very sick, I took no interest in reading, for it injured my head and made me nervous. After I had the vision and God gave me light, He bade me deliver it to the band, but I shrank from it. I was young, and I thought they would not receive it from me. I disobeyed the Lord, and instead of remaining at home, where the meeting was to be that night, I got in a sleigh in the morning and rode three or four miles and there I found J. T. He merely inquired how I was and if I was in the way of my duty. I said nothing, for I knew I was not. I passed up chamber and did not see him again for two hours, when he came up, asked if I was to be at meeting that night. I told him, No. He said he wanted to hear my vision and thought it duty for me to go home. I told him I should not. He said no more, but went away. I thought, and told those around me, if I went I should have to come out against his views, thinking he believed with the rest. I had not told any of them what God had shown me, and I did not tell them in what I should cut across his track.

     All that day I suffered much in body and mind. It seemed that God had forsaken me entirely. I prayed the Lord if he would give me strength to ride home that night, the first opportunity I would deliver the message He had given me. He did give me strength and I rode home that night. Meeting had been done some time, and not a word was said by any of the family about the meeting.

Very early next morning J. T. called, said he was in haste going out of the city in a short time, and wanted I should tell him all that God had shown me in vision. It was with fear and trembling I told him all. After I had got through he said he had told out the same last evening. I was rejoiced, for I expected he was coming out against me, for all the while I had not heard any one say what he believed. He said the Lord had sent him to hear me talk the evening before, but as I would not, he meant his children should have the light in some way, so he took him. There were but few out when he talked, so the next meeting I told my vision, and the band, believing my visions from God, received what God bade me to deliver to them.

The view about the Bridegroom's coming I had about the middle of February, 1845.

     While in Exeter, Maine in meeting with Israel Dammon, James, and many others, many of them did not believe in a shut door. I suffered much at the commencement of the meeting. Unbelief seemed to be on every hand. There was one sister there that was called very spiritual. She had traveled and been a powerful preacher the most of the time for twenty years. She had been truly a mother in Israel. But a division had risen in the band on the shut door. She had great sympathy, and could not believe the door was shut. (I had known nothing of their differences.) Sister Durben got up to talk. I felt very, very sad. At length my soul seemed to be in an agony, and while she was talking I fell from my chair to the floor. It was then I had a view of Jesus rising from His mediatorial throne and going to the holiest as Bridegroom to receive His kingdom. They were all deeply interested in the view. They all said it was entirely new to them. The Lord worked in mighty power setting the truth home to their hearts. Sister Durben knew what the power of the Lord was, for she had felt it many times; and a short time after I fell she was struck down, and fell to the floor, crying to God to have mercy on her. When I came out of vision, my ears were saluted with Sister Durben's singing and shouting with a loud voice. Most of them received the vision, and were settled upon the shut door. Previous to this I had no light on the coming of the Bridegroom, but had expected him to this earth to deliver His people on the tenth day of the seventh month. I did not hear a lecture or a word in any way relating to the Bridegroom's going to the holiest.

     I had but very few privileges in 1842, 3 & 4. My sisters both went to the camp meetings in New Hampshire and Maine, while my health prevented me from going to but one, in Maine. I know the light I received came from God, it was not taught me by man. I knew not how to write so that others could read it till God gave me my visions. I went to school but very little on account of my health. I do not think I went to school a day after I was twelve years old, and did not go then but a few days at a time, when sickness would cause me to take my bed for weeks and sometimes for months. The first I wrote anything that could be called writing was after I had been sick the prayer of faith was put up for me, and healing [here the sheet ends, and the reminder of the letter is gone.]

E. G. White-Letter 3, 1847

Manuscript Release #281—4


 



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O texto da carta foi conferido no website oficial do White Estate por Ennis Meier:

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